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why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community put forward the assessments that gave us a clear assessment and debunked the idea there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified information. but i don't think there's any evidence, i certainly haven't seen any evidence, that general petraeus or any of the other intelligence community were trying to mislead anyone. they are professional. they were trying to do their job, and we can fault them for getting the initial assessment wrong, but i don't think we can ascribe any kind of malice or intent to deceive. >> when your pants are on fire, someone should tell you your pants are on fire. you shouldn't have to ask are my pants on fire? that's my view. i'm going to try to get more information. congressman adam schiff fro
why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community put forward the assessments that gave us a clear assessment and debunked the idea there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified...
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. >> these are cia talking points. who is privy to them the white house and whoever they share it with and the intelligence committee. this was not just kept to susan rice as her script for the sunday morning shows. these were shared with everybody who would be privy. >> the last point is the idea she is not qualified and i doacht trust her -- don't trust her, i have big ears for racial language and i'm hearing them there. this is not a reasonable way. >> i didn't pick that up. the one person they said was unqualified is soto mayor. >> and go to say we supported condoleezza rice it's just susan rice. >> when we come back, the president has a bit of bro-mans going on with john boehner. >> my understanding is material is speaker boehner's birthday. >> i we will talk to senator sanders when we come back. and the elbow of the day of i have to be honest, it's ridiculous today. good luck tryinginging to guess. when alea was born i definitely was not prepared. i just asked myself, "am i doing all that i can, am i doing the be
. >> these are cia talking points. who is privy to them the white house and whoever they share it with and the intelligence committee. this was not just kept to susan rice as her script for the sunday morning shows. these were shared with everybody who would be privy. >> the last point is the idea she is not qualified and i doacht trust her -- don't trust her, i have big ears for racial language and i'm hearing them there. this is not a reasonable way. >> i didn't pick that...
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he is running the cia. but he decides to conduct an affair through a gmail account, because, gosh, nobody can get access to that except maybe any 12-year-old in america. and his paramour, she has a master's degree from harvard, also of west point grad, and she decides, allegedly, to send a threatening e-mails to all woman in florida who may also be going after david petraeus, and she sends these also through a gmail account. and now they are shocked that they got caught. this is dumb and dumber. >> colby, you have a military and national security experience. your thoughts on this? >> war is hell, and obviously it has taken its toll on some of our top generals. look, nothing that general petraeus has done will detract from his record. what happened is still a little confusing. the investigation done by the fbi, and they determined that there was no question of loyalty or national security compromise. and they stopped. there is another aspect to this, the whole question of suitability in conduct. you can be a
he is running the cia. but he decides to conduct an affair through a gmail account, because, gosh, nobody can get access to that except maybe any 12-year-old in america. and his paramour, she has a master's degree from harvard, also of west point grad, and she decides, allegedly, to send a threatening e-mails to all woman in florida who may also be going after david petraeus, and she sends these also through a gmail account. and now they are shocked that they got caught. this is dumb and...
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talking points a congressional source tells fox news the cia talking points had the language changed and drafts including al-qaeda in a later draft extremists, republicans say it was an effort to downplay or minimize the role of al-qaeda in the benghazi attacks, and no one in the u.s. intelligence community could say for sure who is responsible for the change. >> the initial talking points which were put together in an unclassified format at the house of the intelligence committee did initially state that al-qaeda-affiliated groups were involved, however, by the time we understand that went through its editing process after it left langley, that reference was taken out. >> reporter: but democrats say that these changes were not driven by politics, simply made to protect classified information. >> they didn't want to be specific as to the precise group they thought was responsible or groups because there may have been multiple groups involved, multiple groups of terrorists or extremists, but it was done to protect classified information and he was very clear this was never done for po
talking points a congressional source tells fox news the cia talking points had the language changed and drafts including al-qaeda in a later draft extremists, republicans say it was an effort to downplay or minimize the role of al-qaeda in the benghazi attacks, and no one in the u.s. intelligence community could say for sure who is responsible for the change. >> the initial talking points which were put together in an unclassified format at the house of the intelligence committee did...
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look, these cia guys were in a firefight that night seven and a half hours. two of their guys, the seals with cia got killed. they came out, reported back. you had real-time intelligence. the cia, according to petraeus on friday, said he had in his talking points that this may have been an al-qaeda operation. that's taken out. carney and then petraeus and then rice repeatedly and the president say it came out of some spontaneous protest. there was no spontaneous protest. there was a terrorist attack. >> do you think that this is, in addition to what's been said here, do you agree with that, and secondly, do you think it was an effort at a top level to protect the cia? >> well, what you are seeing now on capitol hill that relates to all of what you are asking is that republicans are trying to buck this sort of trend, attitudal trend that you are echoing, this was nothing, this was nothing, so that's why mccain and lindsey graham, and a woman, so not just those two parties. there others. i'm on the hill every day. i will tell you there are republicans that don'
look, these cia guys were in a firefight that night seven and a half hours. two of their guys, the seals with cia got killed. they came out, reported back. you had real-time intelligence. the cia, according to petraeus on friday, said he had in his talking points that this may have been an al-qaeda operation. that's taken out. carney and then petraeus and then rice repeatedly and the president say it came out of some spontaneous protest. there was no spontaneous protest. there was a terrorist...
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former cia covert operatives. the louis gomer, and to leading doctors here to psychoanalyzed it all. in washington that is a lot. our first guest has deep understanding of the y the intelligence community works. joining us now, former cia operative, the highly decorated operative who served 23 years in a clandestine service. he worked as chi of station in the middle east and latin america -- let america. the first question has to be, the former cia director saying that he does not know what happened afer the cia send over their memorandum. that isn't the one he delivered, and the changes had to be made subsequently. the cia director, by the way, you anticipated when you were on this broadcast a few years ago saying that it had to have originated in -- he changes, the flowfrom the white house to the united nations ambassador had to occur either in the state department of the white house itself. >> i stand by that. and e fact is that no one writes those sorts of things that a cia officer would right to my director w
former cia covert operatives. the louis gomer, and to leading doctors here to psychoanalyzed it all. in washington that is a lot. our first guest has deep understanding of the y the intelligence community works. joining us now, former cia operative, the highly decorated operative who served 23 years in a clandestine service. he worked as chi of station in the middle east and latin america -- let america. the first question has to be, the former cia director saying that he does not know what...
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joining me is lieutenant colonel thomas macanerny and former cia officer, peter brooks. i didn't get the message on the gold tie. but good to see you both. look, it seems to me, this is pretty obvious this. shouldn't be politicized. we have four dead american, first ambassador killed in 30 years, why are my suspicions going to, oh, this is just before an election, we can't let the american people know ahead of time what is going on here? colonel? >>. >> that's a very good question. you have heard about the fog of war, we are seeing the fog of the white house right new now. there is no reason thea cannot come and say, we had an attack by radical islamist elements on our consulate in benghazi. and the world would have forgotten about it -- except we lost four people. instead, they have piled on different views. we saw the latest view this morning when general petraeus talked. it just boggles my mind why the president just doesn't take full-- >>> are you convinced he lied, colonel? >> well, i am convinced that he is not telling the truth. i am am convinced there were severa
joining me is lieutenant colonel thomas macanerny and former cia officer, peter brooks. i didn't get the message on the gold tie. but good to see you both. look, it seems to me, this is pretty obvious this. shouldn't be politicized. we have four dead american, first ambassador killed in 30 years, why are my suspicions going to, oh, this is just before an election, we can't let the american people know ahead of time what is going on here? colonel? >>. >> that's a very good question....
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i think it was important that the director of the cia it was important that he testify. i think it was important for our country and the intelligence community and to bring closure to the issues involving him. one of the issues that a lot of people were putting out that he resigned so he wouldn't have to testify about benghazi. that's ridiculous and he stated today that was not the case. so as far as what his comments were when he came to our committee three days after the event, he basically said and this is what is out there now and it's been debated a lot that they thought that initially that it was a protest that was stimulated by the film. he also said at the same time that they felt strongly that there were terrorists involved and they also said that they knew that that area of benghazi was a hot spot, but there was no direct intelligence that there was going to be an attack that day. >> the republicans now say that there's a clear line being drawn now and there was no protest and no one was at that benghazi diplomatic facility who was a protester about that video.
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the former four-star general, former cia director until a week ago tonight was hidden from view as he testified in secret about his old job and what he knows about what happened in benghazi, libya, on 911 of this year. nbc's kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: good evening, hearing from petraeus was so critical, not only because he ran the cia, but he was the only top official to visit libya after the attack. his briefing, amid his personal crisis, has helped lawmakers better understand what the intelligence community knew and when they knew it. leaving home before dawn, david petraeus's trip to capitol hill was carefully cloaked to keep the former spy chief out of view, waiting cameras, blocked by law enforcement to "spare him," from media exposure. >> i apologize, but there is a lot of suffering going on. >> reporter: during the top secret briefing, lawmakers say petraeus made clear that the cia immediately believed that terrorists, and not protesters, were directly responsible for the assault that killed chris stephens and three others. today, a new explanation for why the white
the former four-star general, former cia director until a week ago tonight was hidden from view as he testified in secret about his old job and what he knows about what happened in benghazi, libya, on 911 of this year. nbc's kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: good evening, hearing from petraeus was so critical, not only because he ran the cia, but he was the only top official to visit libya after the attack. his briefing, amid his personal crisis, has helped lawmakers better...
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to decide one way or the other who was involved and those talking points were first put out by the cia and went through various agencies and even the white house before ambassador rice used them on september 16th. last night on this program congressman king put the blame squarely on the white house for changing the talking points. watch. >> the intelligence community said that al qaeda was involved. that was taken out by someone in the white house. the intelligence agency said -- >> that's not what the dni said. >> i'm telling you what he told us today and i'm telling you what was their reporting on 12th, 13th and 15th, there were intelligence estimates saying al qaeda was directly involved somehow after that was prepared by the intelligence community that was taken out after it went to the white house and that was a very serious issue. >> that was congressman king last night on "360." the dechl democratic congressman did not have that same perception listening from the same briefing that day. keeping them honest, this morning only 12 hours later. mr. king seemed to change his tune. af
to decide one way or the other who was involved and those talking points were first put out by the cia and went through various agencies and even the white house before ambassador rice used them on september 16th. last night on this program congressman king put the blame squarely on the white house for changing the talking points. watch. >> the intelligence community said that al qaeda was involved. that was taken out by someone in the white house. the intelligence agency said -- >>...
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why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community did put forward improved assessments over time that gave us the clear picture and debunked the idea that there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified information. but i don't think there's any evidence, i certainly haven't seen any evidence, that general petraeus or any of the other intelligence community were trying to mislead anyone. they are professional. they were trying to do their job, and we can fault them for getting the initial assessment wrong, but i don't think we can ascribe any kind of malice or intent to deceive. >> when your pants are on fire, someone should tell you your pants are on fire. you shouldn't have to ask are my pants on fire? he is only now getting us the straight skinny. that's my view.
why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community did put forward improved assessments over time that gave us the clear picture and debunked the idea that there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that...
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you are the head of the fbi -- the cia at the time of benghazi. this has become a political issue. let's go to the facts now. let's bring closure to this situation. i thank him for his service and that was it. >> you did not know a special arrangements for his detail? >> no. >> did he say how he felt about the change made in the assessment -- peter king said the al qaeda mansion was taken out. >> i will have to look the debt. i cannot tell you what that issue is. the important thing is what he said. we all know fax challenge -- we all know the facts change to let congress know and to let the public through the media -- a lot of information can change. that is what occurred here. we want to get it right. intelligence is an evolving process. there were people injured who were interviewed later on the in germany. i think the most important thing was the real time information to that yesterday seeing the film on the first attack. that clarified a lot of issues. >> [indiscernible] >> we have a court reporter, but you are not supposed to lie to us. we could probably make a criminal case
you are the head of the fbi -- the cia at the time of benghazi. this has become a political issue. let's go to the facts now. let's bring closure to this situation. i thank him for his service and that was it. >> you did not know a special arrangements for his detail? >> no. >> did he say how he felt about the change made in the assessment -- peter king said the al qaeda mansion was taken out. >> i will have to look the debt. i cannot tell you what that issue is. the...
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why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community did put forward improved assessments over time that gave us the clear picture and debunked the idea that there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified information. but i don't think there's any evidence, i certainly haven't seen any evidence, that general petraeus or any of the other intelligence community were trying to mislead anyone. they are professional. they were trying to do their job, and we can fault them for getting the initial assessment wrong, but i don't think we can ascribe any kind of malice or intent to deceive. >> when your pants are on fire, someone should tell you your pants are on fire. you shouldn't have to ask are my pants on fire? he is only now getting us the straight skinny. that's my view.
why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community did put forward improved assessments over time that gave us the clear picture and debunked the idea that there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that, and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so long to get to the truth and get a more accurate picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that...
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lot of other indications that indicate that was not true, denied by the libyan prime minister, the cia station chief called it an act of terror. we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for example, susan rice's statements more up to scrutiny? >> well, i think answers the fundamental question, did they deliberately mislead on this case for political reasons because they were driving the narrative that al-qaeda had been decimated and the war, war was receding or a question of incompetence. neither of those two things is good for the administration although it's after the election, so, they can get the consequences. >> let's take a look at the president talking
lot of other indications that indicate that was not true, denied by the libyan prime minister, the cia station chief called it an act of terror. we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this,...
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he was the head of the cia and he was at that time the head of the cia. we also talked about his trip to libya. our role is to follow the facts. get away from the motion and the media hype and determine what the facts are and question him under oath to make sure that occurred. >> what about changing the assessment of al qaeda and fess -- al qaeda involvement? >> avastin -- new information came in. the analyst review it. >> the talking point said that they had al qaeda in this before december 16th. al qaeda got stripped down. >> i'm not aware that they were knocked out at that point. i thought was important that we did not give out classified information. >> the questions for general petraeus about the scandal that led to his resignation. >> there was a mention in his comments was that he was very sorry that this occurred at anything that occurred with respect to his personal situation had nothing to do with his way that he handled benghazi. he clarify this because he is out there too. >> did he say that there was no national security issues in regards to
he was the head of the cia and he was at that time the head of the cia. we also talked about his trip to libya. our role is to follow the facts. get away from the motion and the media hype and determine what the facts are and question him under oath to make sure that occurred. >> what about changing the assessment of al qaeda and fess -- al qaeda involvement? >> avastin -- new information came in. the analyst review it. >> the talking point said that they had al qaeda in this...
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>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a conspiracy afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about that al qaeda was involved. to me, the question right now is who changed those talking points and why? >> that is the big question at this hour. who changed the talking points and why? >> republicans are doing whatever it takes to fake a scandal in the obama administration. paul waldman calls it scandal envy. nixon had watergate, clinton had lewinsky, barack obama, well, he's gotten off scot-free, and this is making the republicans absolutely livid, he writes. republicans are not going to get the watergate this time around. senator harry reid wrote a letter to john mccain and lindsey graham saying a select
>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a conspiracy afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about...
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>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a cop spear si afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing about that al qaeda was involved. to me, the question right now is who changed those talking points and why? >> that is the big question at this hour. who changed the talking points and why? >> republicans are doing whatever it takes to fake a scandal in the obama administration. paul waldman calls it scandal envy. nixon had watergate, clinton had lewinsky, barack obama, well, he's gotten off scot-free, and this is making the republicans absolutely livid, he writes. republicans are not going to get the watergate this time around. senator harry reid wrote a letter to john mccain and lindsey graham saying a selec
>> no. >> you said the cia said okay to the revised report? >> they okayed it to go. yeah, they said okay. >> no apology for ambassador susan rice after a full week of just trashing her? these republicans have a lot of explaining to do for their behavior this week, don't you think? ambassador rice has been exonerated, it took one day. although if you watch fox news, there's still a cop spear si afoot. >> nothing about the attack, nothing about al qaeda, nothing...
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. >>> another big story tonight, former cia director general david petraeus testified before boat the house and senate intelligence -- both the house and senate intelligence committees today about the consulate attack in benghazi, libya. petraeus testified he mentioned terrorist elements during a briefing to lawmakers days after the attack, something committee chairman peter king says he doesn't recall. >> the talking points were much more specific about al-qaeda involvement and yesterday it said indications of extremists. it said indicate even though it was clearly evidence to the cia thatwas al-qaeda involvement. >> lawmakers on capitol hill say they still have a lot of questions including who was behind the attack and how they got inside the compound. >>> a potomac man imprisoned in cuba three years is suing the u.s. government and his former employer. alan gross is serving a 15 year sentence for spying. he was arrested on his fifth tribble to cuba working to provide internet -- fifth trip to cuba working to provide internet service to the jewish community. he says the government d
. >>> another big story tonight, former cia director general david petraeus testified before boat the house and senate intelligence -- both the house and senate intelligence committees today about the consulate attack in benghazi, libya. petraeus testified he mentioned terrorist elements during a briefing to lawmakers days after the attack, something committee chairman peter king says he doesn't recall. >> the talking points were much more specific about al-qaeda involvement and...
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. >> a week after stepping down from the cia, general david petraeus testifies on capitol hill. tonight, colonel lawrence wilkerson separates fact from fiction and has strong words for john mccain. >>> president obama meets with house and senate leadership to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. i think all of us agree on this and this is action. >> we'll have congressman chris van hollen here to expose the problem. >>> governor scott walker joins rick perry in opposition to health care. john nick els joins us with the latest. >>> secessionists are coming out of the woodwork. wait until you hear their reasons. >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching president the right wing afelt to gin up a scandal is falling apart. republicans have declared the president is covering up information about benghazi. republicans gave us a pregame of accusations, involving ambassador susan rice. some house members say this is worse than watergate. >> this is not simply a coverup of a third-rate burglary. we have four of our diplomatic
. >> a week after stepping down from the cia, general david petraeus testifies on capitol hill. tonight, colonel lawrence wilkerson separates fact from fiction and has strong words for john mccain. >>> president obama meets with house and senate leadership to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. i think all of us agree on this and this is action. >> we'll have congressman chris van hollen here to expose the...
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"cia linked al qaeda to attack." los angeles times" surgical tourism, hip and knee replacements going to a number of hospitals across the country. they agreed to a low fixed rate of surgery and scored high on quality of care. oregonian has the headline "twinkie fans never say die." hostess going out of business. more on this as well later. >>> to front page politics now, new signs of potential breakthrough to avoid the fiscal cliff. congressmen met with president obama on friday. they are hoping to avoid automatic tax increases and massive spending cuts. >> while we're going to continue to have revenue on the table, it's going to be incumbent for my colleagues to show the american people that we're serious about cutting spending and solving our fiscal problems. >> we have to make sure taxes don't go up on middle class families, our economy is remaining stropg, we're creating jobs. that's the agenda that democrats and republicans and independents, people all across the country, share. >> joining me now for discussion
"cia linked al qaeda to attack." los angeles times" surgical tourism, hip and knee replacements going to a number of hospitals across the country. they agreed to a low fixed rate of surgery and scored high on quality of care. oregonian has the headline "twinkie fans never say die." hostess going out of business. more on this as well later. >>> to front page politics now, new signs of potential breakthrough to avoid the fiscal cliff. congressmen met with...